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Written by Ruvy in Jerusalem (http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com/)
Published January 07, 2008
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"The facts, ma'am, just the facts, cluck, cluck....
Sergeant Joe Friday (Jack Webb) made that phrase famous, along with his laconic and near expressionless narration of the events in the TV show, Dragnet, many years ago. None of us ancients who saw the show ever forgot that laconic delivery, or the understated dialogue in the show.
When you find a researcher who writes his reports in a laconic, understated style concentrating on just the facts, he is worth reading. Especially, if he doesn't patronize you or talk down to you. Such a man is Dr. Henry Niman (http://www.recombinomics.com/whats_new.html), who owns the Recombinomics Corp. and maintains a web-site tracking, amongst other things, the bird flu. When someone like Dr. Niman, a fellow who is as laconic as Jack Webb was a half century ago on radio and TV, starts using words like "dramatic" to headline his reports, and talks about "explosions" within them, it really is worth while to lend a careful ear..
Let's take a look at Dr. Niman's headers for one of his bulletins (http://www.recombinomics.com/News/01050802/H5N1_Daqahliyah_30.html):
Just a sentence from the entire report to give a flavor of what is going on: "As noted in the translation above, there have been hundreds of suspect cases in recent days in Egypt."
Put simply, as each day's worth of bulletins indicate, more and more suspect cases of the bird flu are showing up, just in time for your president to show up in Israel. The pandemic promised appears to be materializing, right in our own neighbor's yard.
And now let's bear in mind a couple of facts about the bird flu.
There is no cure. That's right, you read that right. You get, it, you pray that you re one of the 40% of the infectees who lives.
There is no vaccine to prevent the bird flu. When you push the bureaucrats hard enough, they admit the truth - even though they don't want to. Tami flu is a cash cow for its makers and the detail men who hustle it. And it is worth absolutely nothing.
And what causes you to get the bird flu? Well, there is human to human transmission, which is not as hard as previously thought, or contamination from a sick chicken - or a lowered immune system (think of all those Americans who immune system has been lowered by exposure to adenoviruses).
Apparently, the bird flu is spreading quickly, and all over the place. Americans have been weakened by exposure to those adenoviruses and all it takes is one serious contamination from a flu-fecund place like Egypt and your country has one hell of an infection to cope with.
But let's look at the latest transmissions from Dr. Niman (December 2007 to early January 2008). They concentrate on northern Pakistan in early to mid December, and news keeps flowing from there until Benazir Bhutto is assassinated. After this, the unstable condition of the country seems to have made transmissions about the bird flu spotty at best. But even in the transmissions from Pakistan before events seemed to interrupt them, it is evident that the World Health Organization was trying to hide evidence and spin facts to downplay what is going on - human to human transmission on a large scale among the Pushtun in the Northwest Frontier province.
In the later transmissions, we see a sudden upsurge in Egypt (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=106484775090296685271.000442accf347f22ad5d4&ll=29.840644,30.541992&spn=7.886391,11.096191&t=h&z=6&om=0). Apparently, some of this is a seasonal event, but Dr. Niman's terms in describing events in Egypt grow worryingly shrill as the numbers of possible infections from Egypt grow, and as the government tries harder and harder to stifle news out of the country. On the map provided at Dr. Niman's site, we see several dozen "suspected" cases - most likely because the Egyptian government is afraid to confirm them.
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The writer is..........well, like a lot of writers - not up to date on this very complex subject.
Some of us remember when Google refused to allow anything from his website. Recently, when I googled some H5N1-related-complex issue, Recombinomics was at the top of the list. :)
Although I imagine there are other lists that Dr. Niman would rather be on.
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A highly transmissible H5N1 could always be designed in the lab.
Wishes are in the same category as hopes and dreams. Some may take comfort when they read about them in press releases or media myths on H2H and genetic predispositions, but H5N1 is checking out the menu, not the press releases.
The author has a bias. It's obvious. He's using Niman's statements as the basis to string together his own thoughts. I guess that's the price of being a public figure.
Agreed.
The game today is simple. It's either we agree on what's the method of evolution, or we wait to dodge the bullet without knowing who has the gun and what's being done with it.
Disagree! There is nothing simple about nature, or this virus/host system. Oh, that it were just a matter of making a choice - as if making a choice made it so. Our arrogance before nature is appaling and is a reflection of our need rather than of reality. Surely, this research has exposed the oversimplification of our models.
The MIT report just told everyone, "It's the 2,6 stupid."
Disagree! It's not a question of 2,3 or 2,6, or even 'cones' or 'umbrellas' because these receptors are not evolving nearly as fast as the polymorphisms in this virus. These receptor cells are not RNA, they are DNA and they evolve much more slowly. The receptors are not nearly as complex in their variety, and therefor not nearly as capable of novelty as this virus is. The real point of this research, in my unwashed, layman's opinion, is that we now have the ability to see the finer detail of viral evolution. It's no longer H2H capable, or not. It's now a little bit, and and a little more capable. It is still discontinuous, but on a much smaller scale than anyone has dared to speak except for Niman. It is now apparent that one line can hold one piece of the puzzle that renders it inefficient for H2H, and another line can hold a different piece - equally inefficient. But, it is also clear, to me at least, that the two lines can recombine in the blink of an eye to produce a very efficient virus. 2 + 2 >= 4.
GR - this is not a lecture. We just disagree on some points :) Nice to meet you :tiphat:
Yup, I think we agree. Or, I've totally misunderstood the whole thing :oops:
The author has a bias. It's obvious. He's using Niman's statements as the basis to string together his own thoughts. I guess that's the price of being a public figure.
The game today is simple. It's either we agree on what's the method of evolution, or we wait to dodge the bullet without knowing who has the gun and what's being done with it.
The MIT report just told everyone, "It's the 2,6 stupid."
We have seen the list of polymorphisms so far released to the public that increase the connectability, RBD. And we are both looking at where they are now, and what's new.
The rest is an exhibition of paranoia and inflation, imo.
can we assume that they did these tests but keep the results secret ?
Written by Ruvy in Jerusalem (http://ruvysroost.blogspot.com/)
Published January 07, 2008
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On the map provided at Dr. Niman's site[/B], we see several dozen "suspected" cases - most likely because the Egyptian government is afraid to confirm them.
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One could argue that this article is ironic, satiric. And that hide sound facts about bird flu by WHO as part of conspiracy theory or other astruses ideas.
What's the matter?
Another one could see into recent events around the world the God Will, or by converse, Evil Will, but I don't think these or other speculations will aid all of us to confront a threat from bf or any other incident.
Ironic or not, please leave God and Evil out of current human pain and anxiety.
And, if possible, conspiracy theories.
I instantly remind a work of Anthony Burgess ''The End of the World News'': actual events and those depicted in the book seem to have some in common.
The new assay should be able to show that the receptor binding domain changes noted previously are significant and various combinations will either be additive or synergize, and provide hard data to show that the story is the sequence, regardless of whether the sequence is public, in the WHO secret database, or in the garbage can (as was done with the samples from Turkey, Pakistan, and Prince William Island).
H5N1 doesn't read WHO press releases or care about what gets tossed.
H5N1 is here to "serve mankind" (and it is a cook book).
can we assume that they did these tests but keep the results secret ?
Is what panflu capable?
can we assume that they did these tests but keep the results secret ?
YES - YES - NO
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